Ongoing Thoughts for February 20
Another thread for spontaneous, informal and improvizational thinking. You’re welcome to join in, below.
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I have some thoughts I will likely write up soon on the connection between two ideas I’ve written about lately: Frugality and Eternity.
(Sounds like the beginning of a slogan for the French Revolution.)
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Robin Pettit ends a comment on another thread by saying, “I like Obama although I do not agree with every position he has taken. He is a little too centrist for me, but that’s OK as the only other option was was to conservative for me.”
I am not sure of this, but I’m willing to bet that Obama is not really centrist– at least not in any meaningful sense, when it comes to fundamental goals and deepest vision. I believe that Obama is, in terms of his vision for what a society should ideally be, rather radical. I believe that if he could successfully take America to where he’d like for it to be, you’d find us not with something like the status quo but with something far more like the values of radical utopians.
But he is not utopian in his political strategy. He is firmly realistic. And he realizes that in America the best way of getting the country moving in those directions is to go out of your way to make America see you as a centrist. NOthing to worry about. Nothing radical.
He appreciates the way things are as the way things are, and he’s willing to work with them. Which means using the power systems as he finds them, and it means presenting himself to the public in the carefully crafted way that he does– part of which is to continually reassure Americans that he is the contrary of radical, the contrary of someone who’s itching for a fight, the contrary of the strange alien the Republicans tried to make him out to be.
It is great theater, what he does. And it’s also true. He does have allegiance to a lot of what there IS about America, because he knows that is what he has to work with. He’s not going to get America from here to there except by using the existing set-up, which includes guys like Larry Summers and Hillary Clinton.
What Hillary achieved this week in places like Indonesia was, I think , radical. Her words about Obama’s great regard for Indonesia wrought radical changes in the minds of millions there. And so it goes, now, across the world.
We now have a government that is TRULY interested in Green Energy. That is a radical change.
Whatever the extent of his vision for desirable transformation, he understands that in America this transformation can only happen by steps, and that he’ll be able to take the MOST steps the more he can reassure Americans that he’s just fixing things, with a little change thrown in, rather than being dedicated really to the changes, with the fixing being partly a true necessity of crisis and partly a form of theater to dress up the process of transformation.
Again, I could be wrong. This involves interpretation, since by definition the presentation is crafted and, while honest, is not fully forthright. (He tells nothing but the truth, but he keeps a lot of what he believes to be the truth to himself. ) So, being an interpretation, it could be mistaken.
But this is what I see.
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I believe this perspective may help me understand better the parts of Obama’s behavior that have most troubled me.
Obama has not been vigorous about ending all that Bush did with respect to surveillance (his FISA vote) and with respect to state secrets (a court case in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, where someone from the Obama State Department sought to keep the lid closed on a case going forward that could divulget “state secrets,” a concept that the Bushites used in very bad ways to increase their own power and beat back the ability of the legal system to restrain them in any way).
My thought is that Obama is being very careful about dismantling too quickly the Bushite security apparatus. He knows that he is vulnerable to people perceiving him as a limp-wristed liberal who opposed the war in Iraq and who will not protect us so vigorously as GWBush did. The GOP has been laying this trap for him, pushing the idea that Bush protected us, and essentially saying that if there’s another terror attack that will prove that Obama shouldn’t be president.
So Obama is closing Guantanamo, but carefully. He is saying words about torture, etc. BUt he’s also being careful not to take moves that would readily be used by his political enemies to shove him into that trap they’ve been laying for him.
He chooses his ways and means of reclaiming the rule of law, but he avoids those that would undermine his overall position in the ongoing political struggle.
In this respect, he avoids leaning toward holding the Bushites accountable, saying that he wants to look forward, but he also keeps an opening by saying things like “no one is above the law.”
As the exposure of the Bushites moves forward, one way or another –Leahy’s commission, most likely– the image of the Bushites as protectors will weaken.
Obama will benefit from that exposure, and he will be increasingly in a position to dismantle the Bushite evils in the national security field without being so vulnerable as he would be now, if he walked into the GOP trap and allowed scoundrels like Rush Limbaugh to point to an action of his and say, “See, Obama isn’t going to protect you, he cares more about the rights of the terrorists than about the lives of your children.”
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Robin says that I’m describing Obama as a pragmatist. If by pragmatist you mean someone who will follow whatever strategy allows him to achieve the most good, then yes. I see him as having goals for the country –based on a radical and utopian set of standards about the human good, married to a very realistic idea of the flawed nature of the human world– which he keeps constantly in mind, and proceeds toward by whatever means he believes will best enable him to move the world TOWARD that utopian vision.
He does not do ALL that is good because that is not the strategy that he thinks will enable him to best serve The Good in all its diverse forms and wholeness.
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It is radical, for one thing, simply to have a consciousness like Obama has. What he has shown us –the beauties of his DREAMS OF MY FATHER, the inspiration of his speeches, his unflappability under the most intense of circumstances, his repeated deftness of political judgment (note that getting Lierberman on board turned out to be crucial for getting the stimulus passed)– all this bespeaks a human being that goes a whole lot deeper, and is a whole lot better put together, than most anyone we’ve seen in the White House since I don’t know when.
So long as he can continue to find ways of sharing the magnitude of his humanity –not just get swallowed up in policy matters, but also show us his vision, his heart, the love in his family– Obama cannot help but be an agent of radical change in America.
It’s vitally important that we not let the right wing keep reducing the scene under Obama to its own vile little drama of unprincipled liles told as a weapon in waging an unnecessary war.
Obama has to continue to find ways of dramatizing that struggle in ways that not only give him political advantage, but also are not small. Obama cannot allow himself to be made into a figure as petty as his enemies.



February 20th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
It sounds like you believe Barack Obama is a pragmatist. At least that’s the word your words conjure up to me. I do not have any problem with that. However, we can and should be critical of his policies so he can take what we have and use it if possible and we give him cover for his positions that are less extreme. Sometimes pragmatism is the best course, but if the stars align properly and he can realize his truest visions, then he should, at least in some areas, such as health care and green energy, that will set this nation on a much better path with a renewed sense of being on the forefront of ideas leading the world. If that is the case and your interpretation is correct then that is fine by me and I will be happy to provide him with the arguments if he takes them and the cover when he needs it.
February 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Andy`s expectations are about to be dashed, when Obama is confronted by the Republican right and elements within his own party to explain the nicieties of his program. His commitment to the American oligarchy will outweigh that of the people. The social change that Andy dreams of will be obliterated by the Democratic party on US milatarisim abroad and the corporate and special interests he represents; as evidenced by his appointments. Andy`s goals cannot achieved through Obama – only by a total eclipse of the status quo!
February 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Given a choice between a hopeful interpretation and a hopeless on (“His commitment to the American oligarchy will outweigh that of the people”), one can bet with 100 percent certainty (has there EVER been an exception) which one James will choose.
Stopped clocks are sometimes right. But they’re useless for telling time.
February 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Nice discussion, Andy!
February 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Often, no matter what you do, it’s wrong. So, I think it’s good that Obama has the wisdom to please those he will need to achieve his (our) goals.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
These are ongoing thoughts, right? Because, this is just a thought.
I have had little opportunity first hand to really know how well or badly people are doing. Except, twice this and last week I helped out a family by giving them a bunch of food from my freezer. These were not beggars, but neighbors and ‘friends’. (which tells you something)
But today, one of them had a huge garage sale. (Oh, what killed her was that she owed the electrical company $600 for two months) She has a bunch of Foster kids.
The garage sale was really crazy, I mean some of the people. Two women who were well dressed were acting close to abusive, telling my neighbor that her garage sale was ‘shit’, (and it was NOT at all), and that she needed to give them all this stuff for free because of the money they wasted in gas because of her poor signs, and then slamming down the money, leaving in total anger. Another guy stole a bunch of stuff, like chains for a tire, etc.
I often go visit this neighbor when she has garage sales and we just chat. There is no junk, and it is OK to ask to have a discount on something, and her stuff is not overpriced in the first place. These people were really unreasonable and it was quite clear that their bad moods had little to do with the quality of the sale.
February 21st, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Well, given a choice between a hopeful interpretation and a hopeless one, I’ll usually tend to go with the one I deem most accurate. And if it turns out to be the “hopeless” one, I’ll then start looking for my hope somewhere outside the box, so to speak.
It seems to me that the real choice now is not between center and right/left, or between Republican and Democrat, or even Good or Evil, but more between the enormous inertial momentum of industrial civilization and the ever-growing global catastrophe of collateral damage we are now almost completely buried under, and the wish that we weren’t. I suspect even the staunchest Obama supporters will be horrified at some of the pragmatic choices he’s going to have to make just to keep the lights on.