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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Democratic Cowardice That&#8217;s Now the Biggest Problem:  Paul Waldman on The American Prospect</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In thinking about Republican mendacity, I found myself contemplating this quote from Jack Kornfield. 

His observation about some &quot;spiritual groups&quot; applies very much to the quicksand in which both political parties seem to be stuck. To what degree this applies to sectors of the voting public remains to be seen.

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&quot;Finally, it must be acknowledged that some communities become so grandiose, so unconsciously duplicitous and fearful that they are unwilling or unable to face their difficulties. Inevitably, some unhealthy systems are exploitive and abusive beyond repair.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In thinking about Republican mendacity, I found myself contemplating this quote from Jack Kornfield. </p>
<p>His observation about some &#8220;spiritual groups&#8221; applies very much to the quicksand in which both political parties seem to be stuck. To what degree this applies to sectors of the voting public remains to be seen.</p>
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<p>&#8220;Finally, it must be acknowledged that some communities become so grandiose, so unconsciously duplicitous and fearful that they are unwilling or unable to face their difficulties. Inevitably, some unhealthy systems are exploitive and abusive beyond repair.&#8221;</p>
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<p>What to do&#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: MaskedMarauder</title>
		<link>http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=5500&#038;cpage=1#comment-388819</link>
		<dc:creator>MaskedMarauder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conservative&#039;s situation is no better than the progressive&#039;s.  The &quot;rugged individualist&quot; perspective is just the strangely brown sucker&#039;s end of the Divide and Conquer stick.  In both cases the people end up with staggering varieties of trivial choices and the political power of a share cropper.

The only real difference between the two is that the conservative side is bankrolled by deeper pockets, but they&#039;re both inimical to authentic human needs and wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conservative&#8217;s situation is no better than the progressive&#8217;s.  The &#8220;rugged individualist&#8221; perspective is just the strangely brown sucker&#8217;s end of the Divide and Conquer stick.  In both cases the people end up with staggering varieties of trivial choices and the political power of a share cropper.</p>
<p>The only real difference between the two is that the conservative side is bankrolled by deeper pockets, but they&#8217;re both inimical to authentic human needs and wants.</p>
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		<title>By: David R</title>
		<link>http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=5500&#038;cpage=1#comment-388622</link>
		<dc:creator>David R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therese, you didn&#039;t realize that the aim 
of preaching to the young smarties  
&#039;diversity&#039; as a virtue 
was political impotence for the peons?

How &#039;learned&#039; &#039;we&#039; have become !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therese, you didn&#8217;t realize that the aim<br />
of preaching to the young smarties<br />
&#8216;diversity&#8217; as a virtue<br />
was political impotence for the peons?</p>
<p>How &#8216;learned&#8217; &#8216;we&#8217; have become !</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Chess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey Chess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transpose what Therese shares to liberal values as a whole, and different variations abound. There used to be a national organization of progressive funders known as the National Network of Grantmakers and they eventually fell apart because of the same self-defeating &quot;special interests and diversity.&quot; Look at MoveOn right now. Robert Parry does well in treating this flaw from a media strategy perspective. 

Therese nails it. The neocons certainly have &quot;come together FIRST&quot; to command the media and its use to push the government-as-the-problem litany. Where is the countervailing strategy amongst those who hold a more humane view of our polity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transpose what Therese shares to liberal values as a whole, and different variations abound. There used to be a national organization of progressive funders known as the National Network of Grantmakers and they eventually fell apart because of the same self-defeating &#8220;special interests and diversity.&#8221; Look at MoveOn right now. Robert Parry does well in treating this flaw from a media strategy perspective. </p>
<p>Therese nails it. The neocons certainly have &#8220;come together FIRST&#8221; to command the media and its use to push the government-as-the-problem litany. Where is the countervailing strategy amongst those who hold a more humane view of our polity?</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Democrats behave much like a rally I participated in back in 1983 in DC.  My eyes were opened to the impotence of the left when it comes to affecting policy.  The rally was protesting American involvement in El Salvador, namely arming the government to fight rebels in the civil war.  This was the same government that gunned down Archbishop Romero during Mass in 1980.  I would think this is a simple message to take to DC.  How naive I was.  

At the rally before the march, I expected to hear again what we were protesting.  Instead each individual group came to the podium with a list of grievances about their own plight; women&#039;s rights, gay rights, environment, etc.  Given this was Reagan&#039;s terms, their grievances were valid, but they were missing the point.  The chance to say something in a united fashion was given away to remain focused on their own agenda.  As we marched to the White House, I felt so disappointed as I saw banners about this issue or that, while my one friend and I seemed to have the only sign actually relevant to the march - No arms to El Salvador.

My example goes to show that the Democrats do this as well.  Without unity of purpose, the chance to begin to make change will be squandered.  The Democratic Party is filled with special interests and diversity to such an extent that they are blinded to the need to come together FIRST.  Then seek redress for their separate issues.  Their separate self-interest destroys their message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats behave much like a rally I participated in back in 1983 in DC.  My eyes were opened to the impotence of the left when it comes to affecting policy.  The rally was protesting American involvement in El Salvador, namely arming the government to fight rebels in the civil war.  This was the same government that gunned down Archbishop Romero during Mass in 1980.  I would think this is a simple message to take to DC.  How naive I was.  </p>
<p>At the rally before the march, I expected to hear again what we were protesting.  Instead each individual group came to the podium with a list of grievances about their own plight; women&#8217;s rights, gay rights, environment, etc.  Given this was Reagan&#8217;s terms, their grievances were valid, but they were missing the point.  The chance to say something in a united fashion was given away to remain focused on their own agenda.  As we marched to the White House, I felt so disappointed as I saw banners about this issue or that, while my one friend and I seemed to have the only sign actually relevant to the march &#8211; No arms to El Salvador.</p>
<p>My example goes to show that the Democrats do this as well.  Without unity of purpose, the chance to begin to make change will be squandered.  The Democratic Party is filled with special interests and diversity to such an extent that they are blinded to the need to come together FIRST.  Then seek redress for their separate issues.  Their separate self-interest destroys their message.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t their (Biden, Obama admin., etc.) lawyers file for a memorandum of understanding RE: how they respond to Cheney?  As you say, that cat is out of the bag in terms of how Biden REALLY feels lol ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t their (Biden, Obama admin., etc.) lawyers file for a memorandum of understanding RE: how they respond to Cheney?  As you say, that cat is out of the bag in terms of how Biden REALLY feels lol ?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bard Schmookler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Bard Schmookler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huffington Post had a headline today:  &quot;Joe Biden Tears Into Dick Cheney.&quot;

In the article, which is about the appearance of Vice President Biden on MEET THE PRESS, the Biden quote from the interview has him saying, twice, &quot;Dick Cheney&#039;s a fine fellow.&quot;

What&#039;s the point of such a declaration?

Biden had indicated previously, during the 2008 campaign, that Cheney had &quot;done more harm than any other single elected official in memory in terms of shredding the Constitution.&quot;

How fine a fellow can a man be who&#039;d done more than any other to shred the Constitution?

If this is what a Democratic leader sounds like when he &quot;tears into&quot; a liar and criminal and fear-mongerer like Dick Cheney, God help us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huffington Post had a headline today:  &#8220;Joe Biden Tears Into Dick Cheney.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the article, which is about the appearance of Vice President Biden on MEET THE PRESS, the Biden quote from the interview has him saying, twice, &#8220;Dick Cheney&#8217;s a fine fellow.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of such a declaration?</p>
<p>Biden had indicated previously, during the 2008 campaign, that Cheney had &#8220;done more harm than any other single elected official in memory in terms of shredding the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>How fine a fellow can a man be who&#8217;d done more than any other to shred the Constitution?</p>
<p>If this is what a Democratic leader sounds like when he &#8220;tears into&#8221; a liar and criminal and fear-mongerer like Dick Cheney, God help us!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that David R&#039;s long time here with all of us on NSB is evidence that he&#039;ll not balk AT USING THE ACE as a face card.  I&#039;m not the card parlor type but that&#039;s as plain as the nose on one&#039;s face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that David R&#8217;s long time here with all of us on NSB is evidence that he&#8217;ll not balk AT USING THE ACE as a face card.  I&#8217;m not the card parlor type but that&#8217;s as plain as the nose on one&#8217;s face.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bard Schmookler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Bard Schmookler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Because, Andy, his black and white world views the American politician diametrically opposed to the American artist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Artist?  That confuses me:  that doesn&#039;t seem like one of the face cards is David R&#039;s deck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because, Andy, his black and white world views the American politician diametrically opposed to the American artist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Artist?  That confuses me:  that doesn&#8217;t seem like one of the face cards is David R&#8217;s deck.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bard Schmookler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Bard Schmookler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can grant what you say, Sam, about the media.  Yet the fact remains:  the Democrats&#039; job --both for the good of the country and for their own political survival (I, for one, do not see a conflict right now between those two-- is to be effective in the battle, TAKING THE FORCES ARRAYED AGAINST THEM AS A GIVEN.  

Surely, the corruption and irresponsibility of the media have to be taken into account in devising the best strategy, along with the darkness of the Republicans and the defects in the American public.

My point is predicated on this simple proposition:  CONSIDERABLY BETTER STRATEGIES HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE DEMOCRATS THAN THOSE THEY&#039;VE EMPLOYED.  Much better.  That lack of &quot;boldness,&quot; that lack of &quot;spine,&quot; that lack of strategic judgment, that lack of clarity about their BEING IN A BATTLE have led them to give away territory while --in my view-- they could have been GAINING territory this past year.

So when you say, &quot;get behind them,&quot; it raises the question:  Is the best way of getting behind them to applaud what they&#039;re doing, which is squandering their advantages, or to exhort them into the battle so we can be behind their doing what can succeed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can grant what you say, Sam, about the media.  Yet the fact remains:  the Democrats&#8217; job &#8211;both for the good of the country and for their own political survival (I, for one, do not see a conflict right now between those two&#8211; is to be effective in the battle, TAKING THE FORCES ARRAYED AGAINST THEM AS A GIVEN.  </p>
<p>Surely, the corruption and irresponsibility of the media have to be taken into account in devising the best strategy, along with the darkness of the Republicans and the defects in the American public.</p>
<p>My point is predicated on this simple proposition:  CONSIDERABLY BETTER STRATEGIES HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE DEMOCRATS THAN THOSE THEY&#8217;VE EMPLOYED.  Much better.  That lack of &#8220;boldness,&#8221; that lack of &#8220;spine,&#8221; that lack of strategic judgment, that lack of clarity about their BEING IN A BATTLE have led them to give away territory while &#8211;in my view&#8211; they could have been GAINING territory this past year.</p>
<p>So when you say, &#8220;get behind them,&#8221; it raises the question:  Is the best way of getting behind them to applaud what they&#8217;re doing, which is squandering their advantages, or to exhort them into the battle so we can be behind their doing what can succeed?</p>
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