Comments on: Ongoing Thoughts for February 20 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:37:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: mczilla http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271306 mczilla Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:24:18 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271306 Well, given a choice between a hopeful interpretation and a hopeless one, I'll usually tend to go with the one I deem most accurate. And if it turns out to be the "hopeless" one, I'll then start looking for my hope somewhere outside the box, so to speak. It seems to me that the real choice now is not between center and right/left, or between Republican and Democrat, or even Good or Evil, but more between the enormous inertial momentum of industrial civilization and the ever-growing global catastrophe of collateral damage we are now almost completely buried under, and the wish that we weren't. I suspect even the staunchest Obama supporters will be horrified at some of the pragmatic choices he's going to have to make just to keep the lights on. Well, given a choice between a hopeful interpretation and a hopeless one, I’ll usually tend to go with the one I deem most accurate. And if it turns out to be the “hopeless” one, I’ll then start looking for my hope somewhere outside the box, so to speak.

It seems to me that the real choice now is not between center and right/left, or between Republican and Democrat, or even Good or Evil, but more between the enormous inertial momentum of industrial civilization and the ever-growing global catastrophe of collateral damage we are now almost completely buried under, and the wish that we weren’t. I suspect even the staunchest Obama supporters will be horrified at some of the pragmatic choices he’s going to have to make just to keep the lights on.

]]> By: Katrin http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271241 Katrin Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:19:37 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271241 These are ongoing thoughts, right? Because, this is just a thought. I have had little opportunity first hand to really know how well or badly people are doing. Except, twice this and last week I helped out a family by giving them a bunch of food from my freezer. These were not beggars, but neighbors and 'friends'. (which tells you something) But today, one of them had a huge garage sale. (Oh, what killed her was that she owed the electrical company $600 for two months) She has a bunch of Foster kids. The garage sale was really crazy, I mean some of the people. Two women who were well dressed were acting close to abusive, telling my neighbor that her garage sale was 'shit', (and it was NOT at all), and that she needed to give them all this stuff for free because of the money they wasted in gas because of her poor signs, and then slamming down the money, leaving in total anger. Another guy stole a bunch of stuff, like chains for a tire, etc. I often go visit this neighbor when she has garage sales and we just chat. There is no junk, and it is OK to ask to have a discount on something, and her stuff is not overpriced in the first place. These people were really unreasonable and it was quite clear that their bad moods had little to do with the quality of the sale. These are ongoing thoughts, right? Because, this is just a thought.

I have had little opportunity first hand to really know how well or badly people are doing. Except, twice this and last week I helped out a family by giving them a bunch of food from my freezer. These were not beggars, but neighbors and ‘friends’. (which tells you something)

But today, one of them had a huge garage sale. (Oh, what killed her was that she owed the electrical company $600 for two months) She has a bunch of Foster kids.

The garage sale was really crazy, I mean some of the people. Two women who were well dressed were acting close to abusive, telling my neighbor that her garage sale was ‘shit’, (and it was NOT at all), and that she needed to give them all this stuff for free because of the money they wasted in gas because of her poor signs, and then slamming down the money, leaving in total anger. Another guy stole a bunch of stuff, like chains for a tire, etc.

I often go visit this neighbor when she has garage sales and we just chat. There is no junk, and it is OK to ask to have a discount on something, and her stuff is not overpriced in the first place. These people were really unreasonable and it was quite clear that their bad moods had little to do with the quality of the sale.

]]> By: Katrin http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271239 Katrin Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:58:01 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271239 Often, no matter what you do, it's wrong. So, I think it's good that Obama has the wisdom to please those he will need to achieve his (our) goals. Often, no matter what you do, it’s wrong. So, I think it’s good that Obama has the wisdom to please those he will need to achieve his (our) goals.

]]> By: Katrin http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271238 Katrin Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:55:27 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271238 Nice discussion, Andy! Nice discussion, Andy!

]]> By: Andrew Bard Schmookler http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271223 Andrew Bard Schmookler Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:02:57 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271223 Given a choice between a hopeful interpretation and a hopeless on ("His commitment to the American oligarchy will outweigh that of the people"), one can bet with 100 percent certainty (has there EVER been an exception) which one James will choose. Stopped clocks are sometimes right. But they're useless for telling time. Given a choice between a hopeful interpretation and a hopeless on (“His commitment to the American oligarchy will outweigh that of the people”), one can bet with 100 percent certainty (has there EVER been an exception) which one James will choose.

Stopped clocks are sometimes right. But they’re useless for telling time.

]]> By: James http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271222 James Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:43:16 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271222 Andy`s expectations are about to be dashed, when Obama is confronted by the Republican right and elements within his own party to explain the nicieties of his program. His commitment to the American oligarchy will outweigh that of the people. The social change that Andy dreams of will be obliterated by the Democratic party on US milatarisim abroad and the corporate and special interests he represents; as evidenced by his appointments. Andy`s goals cannot achieved through Obama - only by a total eclipse of the status quo! Andy`s expectations are about to be dashed, when Obama is confronted by the Republican right and elements within his own party to explain the nicieties of his program. His commitment to the American oligarchy will outweigh that of the people. The social change that Andy dreams of will be obliterated by the Democratic party on US milatarisim abroad and the corporate and special interests he represents; as evidenced by his appointments. Andy`s goals cannot achieved through Obama – only by a total eclipse of the status quo!

]]> By: Robin Pettit http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945&cpage=1#comment-271219 Robin Pettit Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:48:06 +0000 http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=1945#comment-271219 It sounds like you believe Barack Obama is a pragmatist. At least that's the word your words conjure up to me. I do not have any problem with that. However, we can and should be critical of his policies so he can take what we have and use it if possible and we give him cover for his positions that are less extreme. Sometimes pragmatism is the best course, but if the stars align properly and he can realize his truest visions, then he should, at least in some areas, such as health care and green energy, that will set this nation on a much better path with a renewed sense of being on the forefront of ideas leading the world. If that is the case and your interpretation is correct then that is fine by me and I will be happy to provide him with the arguments if he takes them and the cover when he needs it. It sounds like you believe Barack Obama is a pragmatist. At least that’s the word your words conjure up to me. I do not have any problem with that. However, we can and should be critical of his policies so he can take what we have and use it if possible and we give him cover for his positions that are less extreme. Sometimes pragmatism is the best course, but if the stars align properly and he can realize his truest visions, then he should, at least in some areas, such as health care and green energy, that will set this nation on a much better path with a renewed sense of being on the forefront of ideas leading the world. If that is the case and your interpretation is correct then that is fine by me and I will be happy to provide him with the arguments if he takes them and the cover when he needs it.

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